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In 2000 the members of the Needlework Tool Collectors Society of Australia [NTCSA] made their Dorcas thimble boxes available for recording. Lee Bateman and Sue Gowan undertook this to coincide with Lee's presentation on Dorcas thimbles. It is only with a good quantity of items for comparison, that any research becomes possible.
Copies of the photographs were placed in the library of the NTCSA and a second set given to the Dorset Thimble Society. Originally the boxes were photographed against a ruler, but this has not proved satisfactory in showing the actual measurements of the boxes.
It is now time to share these boxes with the wider thimble collecting community in the hope that further examples will turn up and to stimulate further research. More importantly, it is necessary to record this information for future collectors as these boxes are fragile and the information on the bases has been lost or worn to illegibility.
I am often asked whether one should keep the boxes in which thimbles are supplied. Without the boxes produced with the Dorcas thimbles, our knowledge would be poorer.
Similarly, if no "Nifty" thimble boxes remained, there would be no link to Australia's "Nifty" sterling silver thimbles, as it is only on their boxes that the word 'Australia' appears.
In modern collections, where space is of a premium, it is more difficult to retain modern thimble boxes, but if those needlewomen hadn't passed down their Dorcas thimbles in their original boxes …
Charles Horner, of Halifax England, patented his steel-cored sterling silver Dorcas thimbles in March 1885 and they were made from then until 1947. They have the beauty and comfort of silver with the strength of steel. This was a major change in the way thimbles were made and Horner took advantage of this with clever marketing. He soon offered an unconditional guarantee on these new thimbles. It was the first time that thimbles had been sold with an unconditional guarantee. This guarantee was placed on the underside of the cardboard thimble boxes that Dorcas thimbles were sold in.
For those who own a Dorcas thimble in its original cardboard box, you are indeed fortunate. Because they are not common, you may not be aware how wide the diversity of boxes is and how the guarantees changed over the years.
We do not know which thimbles were supplied in which boxes. There were several different patterns on Dorcas thimbles, but again no specific box matched a specific design.
To date we know of 20 different types of Dorcas boxes with 4 composite Dorcas boxes. Sometimes, it is just a different colour for the guarantee; sometimes a different coloured inner velour or velvet lining, on the bottom half only. Most of the boxes have a white trim around the edges of the lid.
The interest tho lies in the lettering on the front of the boxes and in the different labels on the base of these boxes. There are two forms of guarantee and together with the first label which has no guarantee, they would roughly correspond to three phases of Dorcas thimbles production. Guarantee 2 always names the size as '10', no matter what size thimble the box contained.
The 9-carat gold Dorcas thimble boxes differed from those for the silver ones, in that the gold thimble boxes are hinged. There is no guarantee on those boxes. So if your box is hinged, it would originally have contained a gold Dorcas.
Horner did not use the name Dorcas on his newly patented thimbles. Initially they were only marked with the word PAT (for patent) plus a number (the size). The early Dorcas thimbles produced had no guarantee of exchange. The boxes with label 1 would be on the earliest boxes and they do have the name Dorcas on them. Once he gauged the popularity of his thimbles, the guarantee was added.
What seems unclear from the current thimble literature is when Horner began to use the name Dorcas, but probably during the 1890s. When he did, the thimbles were marked DORCAS, with C.H. and the size. The boxes with guarantee 1 would be used on the next era of boxes. After approximately 1898 the British thimble trade began to use 'British Made'. Up to around 1905 the Dorcas thimble apexes were domed, which would have necessitated having a bigger thimble box and may correspond to the box sizings.
Horner introduced the Improved Dorcas in 1905: it was a completely new process. It was after this that the apexes become flat. The fit is very snug for these later thimbles in the smaller boxes produced after 1905. The words "Improved Dorcas" appear on these guarantees: see guarantee 2
Horner also produced The Little Dorcas with its own box and label - there were no guarantees on the bottom of these boxes, which were housed in these little cardboard thimble boxes. The rarest Dorcas box that has recently come to my attention is for The London Dorcas. It is difficult enought to find the London Dorcas thimble, never mind finding the matching thimble box!
Since being sent photos of the Dorcas composite boxes, this section is now growing with an undreamed of selection when I began this little undertaking. These would probably have been used by haberdashers or salesmen to display the range of sizes and patterns of Dorcas thimbles.
So popular were the Dorcas thimbles that Horner's competitors started producing their own steel-cored silver thimbles after Horner's patents expired - in the 1920s - Dreema by Henry Griffith and Son, Dura by Walker & Hall and Doris by Charles Iles and the metal thimble The Dorothy by Charles Iles. I have included the Dura (finally a rare Dura Box has turned up!!), Dreema, The Dorothy and Doris boxes for comparison. None have Horner's unconditional guarantee.
I encourage you to seek out the four references listed at the end of these pages, to find out more about Dorcas thimbles and the related steel-cored sterling silver thimbles.
As I don't own any of these boxes, I need help with the sizing in millimetres, please.
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| Dorcas boxes |
Label 1
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THE DORCAS Dark blue box bold gold lettering green paper guarantee white velvet lining |
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The Dorcas Cross-hatched blue box gold lettering diagonally green paper guarantee blue velvet lining size 27x25mm |
The Dorcas Cross-hatched blue box gold lettering diagonally black paper guarantee white velvet lining size 27x25mm |
THE DORCAS Cross-hatched blue box gold lettering black paper guarantee blue velvet lining |
Dorcas Cross-hatched blue-green box gold lettering green paper guarantee creamy-white velvet lining |
The Dorcas Bubbly, grey box maroon lettering white paper guarantee with blue lettering green velvet lining size 30x27mm |
The Dorcas Steel-blue box red lettering green paper guarantee green velvet lining size 31x26X20mm |
The Dorcas Cross-hatched blue box raised gold lettering diagonally green paper guarantee ivory velvet lining size 30x27mm |
Guarantee 2
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The Dorcas Dark blue box with white trim gold lettering green paper guarantee with gold lettering white velvet lining |
The Dorcas Crackled grey-green box gold lettering green paper guarantee white-pink velvet lining |
The Dorcas Cross-hatched blue box gold lettering black paper guarantee white velvet lining size 28x25mm |
The Dorcas Cross-hatched blue box with white trim gold lettering maroon paper guarantee white velvet lining size 28x25mm photo Irene Schwall |
The Dorcas Cross-hatched blue box with white trim gold lettering green paper guarantee white velvet lining size 28x25mm |
THE IMPROVED DORCAS Cross-hatched blue box with white trim gold lettering maroon paper guarantee green velvet lining |
THE IMPROVED DORCAS Cross-hatched grey box with white trim gold lettering at lower edge white velvet lining |
The Dorcas Yellow box with white trim gold lettering brown paper guarantee white velvet lining size 30x27mm |
GOLD DORCAS
9-carat gold steel-lined Dorcas box The Dorcas Pinky grey box with white trim gold lettering green velvet lining The box is hinged and has no guarantee 9ct GOLD is lettered on inside lid size 32x26.5mm |
THE LITTLE DORCAS
The Little Dorcas label
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THE LITTLE DORCAS Grey blue box with white trim gold lettering maroon paper description pale blue velvet lining |
THE LITTLE DORCAS Grey box with white trim gold lettering maroon paper description with Guarantee 2 for standard Dorcas thimbles grey velvet lining |
THE LITTLE DORCAS Purplish-grey box with white trim green lettering as gold has worn off maroon paper description with Little Dorcas guarantee grey velvet lining size 30x25x24mm photo Irene Schwall |
THE LONDON DORCAS
The London Dorcas Olive drab green box with white edging deep grey lettering slightly diagonally dark blue velvet lining there is additional lettering that looks like S F & Co size 34x26x25mm there is no guarantee label on the bottom Click to see this very rare thimble |
| COMPOSITE DORCAS BOXES |
glass-topped Dorcas display box "DORCAS" THIMBLE STERLING SILVER HORNER'S. PATENT with RD No.116254 on the box under Horner name |
glass-topped Dorcas display box "IMPROVED DORCAS" HORNER'S. PATENT STERLING SILVER with RD No.116254 on the box's front edge |
black Bakelite Dorcas display stand with sized spaces for 12 thimbles 115mm in height |
glass-topped cardboard Dorcas display box for "Improved Dorcas" displays on the base are sizes with inside measurements 12 smaller boxes with no covers - all have the red Guarantee 2 label with green velvet lining size 3x7 inches |
cardboard The Dorcas Thimble box size 165X65x25mm also shows Charles Horner's trademark on the bottom R-H corner photo Irene Schwall |
| Other boxes |
THE DORIS
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The Doris Grey blue box with white trim italic gold lettering diagonally maroon paper description green velvet lining |
The Doris Grey blue box with white trim italic black lettering diagonally cream paper description green velvet lining |
THE DOROTHY
THE DOROTHY THIMBLE cream box no guarantee |
DREEMA
The Dreema label
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DREEMA THIMBLES Cross-hatched grey box with two gold stars gold lettering grey paper with green lettering blue velvet lining |
DREEMA THIMBLES Grey box with two gold stars gold lettering grey paper with green lettering red velvet lining |
DREEMA THIMBLES Grey mottled box with white trim with four blue diamond shapes blue lettering grey paper with blue lettering red or blue velvet lining |
DREEMA THIMBLES Grey dimpled box with white trim with two gold curliques gold lettering grey paper with green lettering blue velvet lining |
DREEMA THIMBLES red box with white trim with two gold stars black lettering white velvet lining |
DURA
DURA Finely dotted grey box with white edging italic deep grey lettering diagonally no guarantee black velvet lining size 32.5x25mm |
DURA Finely dotted mauve box with white edging italic gold lettering diagonally no guarantee white velvet lining |
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Contributors
Janine Affleck, Lee Bateman, Clarice Birch, Helen Burgin, Sue Christensen, Margaret Estano
Rosalind Forster, Margaret Hendriksen, Doreen Levy, June Lewis, Ray Nimmo, Paul, Irene Schwall, Helen Shyers, Sue Wilson
References
Charles Horner of Halifax (2002) / Tom Lawson
History of thimbles (1985) / Edwin Holmes
Identifying steel-cored thimbles (1993) / Diane Pelham Burn
Zalkin's handbook of thimbles & sewing implements (1988) / Estelle Zalkin
This listing of Dorcas thimble boxes does not purport to be complete or accurate in all aspects.
Rather it invites comment and contribution to add to our knowledge of these highly prized items.
My thanks to the other contributors.
Enjoy!
© Sue Gowan
September 2004
THERE ARE 31 "LEARN MORE ABOUT..." TOPICS
Brass Advertising |
British Placenames |
British Royalty on Thimbles |
British Silversmiths |
Charles May |
Christmas |
Coalport
Dorcas Thimble Boxes
Easter |
Gadgets |
Francesca |
Hallmarked Thimbles set |
'Mother' |
The World's Greatest Porcelain Houses
Royal Albert |
Royal Crown Derby |
Royal Worcester Handpainted Thimbles |
Royal Worcester Decal Thimbles |
S + H Foskett
Silver Advertising Thimbles |
Spode |
Stratnoid |
SylvaC |
Thimble Books
Thimble Collectors Club |
Thimble Societies |
Thimbles with Slogans |
Thimblefuls
Victorian Silver Scenic Thimbles |
Wedgwood Jasperware |
Wedgwood Bone China Thimbles
THERE ARE 22 PAGES OF THIMBLES & OTHER ITEMS TO BUY
aluminium 1 -
books 1 -
brass 1 -
china 6 -
display cases 1
gold 1 -
needlework tools 2 -
other collectables 1 -
pewter 1 -
plastic 1
silver 3 -
steel & metal 1 -
unusual materials 1 -
wood 1
Any questions or comments?
thimbleselect@bigpond.com
I do not offer any type of valuation or advice on prices.
| Last updated 9 February 2009 |